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E-Vaire 11-10-2007 11:15

RE: Your English
 
Nope. I do mistakes, I'm sure. I don't know why I criticize people and their mstakes in a texts... But I do that and? I corrected her mistake to 126p doesn't this one in future! If u want U can say whatever about me here, I know who I am and I don't need you to do that.

blackberry 11-13-2007 21:48

RE: Your English
 
In my opiniaon correcting other people is ok,only if you do that on a polite way. It's only needed to say"you've made a mistake here and here" and using texts "oh,you should bye better dictionary" , or something like that, is just needless.Everybody makes mistakes and we don't have to offend anybody to make him know had he make any mistake...

Fiteg 11-15-2007 00:12

RE: Your English
 
U are completly right. People! Be more tolerant, not everyone speaks english perfect. Tolerance is the basic thing to have nice conversation. I myself learn english with passion for a long time, sometimes even using uncoventional methods and it doesn't always come out the right way. Its very nice that on even polish forums u can talk in a different foregin language, its very building. Greetings to all berries on this forum and english language comrades.;)

Thats`s strange...Everybody say "How am I good in engish" but anybody write in this "english zone" It`s time to wake up :D!!!

BlinkBlinkBoy 11-17-2007 22:51

RE: Your English
 
This is a thread about English language... I could see another discussion above. Good. The high interactivity of this site should be considered a luxury, not a right. This forum was created to enable debating and discussing with each other.

I'm aware English can be used for picking at and getting at other people, but it doesn't become to criticise someone in an unfair and annoying way... Shame on everyone who does so! I encourage you to stay cool and use proper adjectives to express yourself (I know nobody used improper ones, but I only try to forestall it). Any kind of attacks and retaliations make no sense and shouldn't be tolerated. If one cannot follow this simple rule, one should make a short break and stop writing on this forum....

We should extend the zone and as Fiteg wrote - it's time to wake up! Nobody is perfect, even native speakers make mistakes. We should use the language because it's the best way of learning it. Correcting people should be kind and constuctive.

And one thing I want to add... Fiteg! Were I you, I would use 'elevating' instead 'building'. I presume you wanted to say that opportunity of using English on Polish forum is making you cheerful...

Fiteg 11-18-2007 01:05

RE: Your English
 
i`ve benn waiting for reply such a long time:D One thing about world "building" I know what does it exactly mean however this world have second meaning wich belong to slang language. I`ve heard that english is very useful for harry potters funs cuz it helps you with reading "fresh" books":) . You said that we shoud stay cool and use proper adjectives... but...proper you mean what? For example 'building' is improper adjective:D Apparently everybody ain`t speak english? I don`t think so! Namely ain`t be a lazers therefore i spur to gone wild!!:D

BlinkBlinkBoy 11-18-2007 16:11

RE: Your English
 
I do not know such a slang you are writing about and I will stick to my earlier comment. In my opinion translating by copying Polish words exactly into English language is not always good, and poor imitates the using of this language. English has so many different expressions and idioms we can use instead of our own specifically Polish ones.

By improper adjectives I meant any vulgar, coarse or abusive words addressed to another user of the zone... As I said, fortunately, nobody has used such words and I wanted to forestall it having hopes of reacting it.

And my another comment: I think there should be 'lazybones' instead of 'lazer'. I respect your right to use a slang, but slang does not mean making up your own words... Slang has its own rights and there is a difference between using English slang and making own slang to use it among people who know what a made up expression means...

English is now a language used for international purposes and I am aware of the fact that the majority of English users would be able to understand you. The point is what did you want to achieve: an ability of communicating with other people or knowledge of language. Personally speaking I would like to possess both of them...

Fiteg 11-20-2007 00:50

RE: Your English
 
"translating by copying Polish words exactly into English language" What does it mean? Maybe I do mistakes like that? Do yo suggest something? Apart from this my experience is talking to me that "lazer" is correct too:D

ability communicating with other people ---> this is the main and most important thing for all people who`s learning english. I can`t see the difference beetwen ability of communicating and knowledge of language, in turn i can see a lot of sameness:D peace out;)

BlinkBlinkBoy 11-20-2007 15:01

RE: Your English
 
Translating by copying Polish words exactly into English lanuage means exactly and precisely what I have written... You should know best if I suggested anything... And I have never seen an experience capable of human speech...

I cannot deny the ability of communicating is the most important thing for the majority of learners... But I cannot be numbered among the majority. There is quite large difference between the ability of communicating and the knowledge of language (I mean knowledge at lingustics level), but I have to admit that they are inseparably connected, however it does not mean everyone who possessed the ability of communicating has a good knowledge of language. The better knowledge is, the better you can communicate with other people... But I know people who can speak English very fluently without any particular expertise. I do not demand that everybody should have a specialistic knowledge - I do not possess it myself, but I am trying to get it systematically.

I would like to highlight the fact the pronunciation of lazer is identical to pronunciation of laser.. It could be troublesome...

Finally I would like to thank you Fiteg for giving me an opportunity of discussing here in English. We have few quarrelsome and argumentative fellows here and especially one of them has sufficient conversational powers and the will to debate. The rest of the forum users do not know English good enough to hold the conversation...

Elf 11-20-2007 16:01

RE: Your English
 
So... Im learning English since I was 5 years old.
I've never liked it, but since I needed to know it well and fully use.
For 2 years it was like my native language, because I was working on an english community as Super Moderator and Operator.
On begining it was kinda hard, but each day easier and my english became almost perfect.
Tho' only I've been thinking so, and with time still improved and improved my english to proper.
Still I'm doing alot of mistakes, but I give a shit. The most satisfying is I can normally with no need to use some translators talk with friends from whole globe.
Last year I started to watch BBC Prime channel, to improve my spoken english.
For few months I was watchin' and watching with no results. Then someday I was in need to say something, and I've said it proper, with english accent.
Damn, I was like 'WTF?', but then I understood that hours of spending time at english channel watching some shitty comedies, gave me positive result.
Heh, mostly I watched the BBC at 1:30AM to 3:00AM, so it was ... nightride :smilewinkgrin:
Now I just love english, and I can't imagine to not-know-it :bigrazz:
Sometimes I dont know how to say something in polish, because I think about it in English - sad :lol:
Well I think thats all I can say about english language from my point of view.

Fiteg 11-20-2007 18:48

RE: Your English
 
"The rest of the forum users do not know English good enough to hold the conversation..." - i hope that this worlds should help to recive more users who wold like to talk in english in this zone:D Elf, you said that you was working in english community as moderator, operator... I don`t understand exacly what do u do? What kind of work is it? This idea with englisg channel is very good, i`ve been practising this and after few months it helps. But you gotta be hard-bitten <--- this is the main quality to become perfect in english:D:D Don`t you think?

Miss Bagwell 12-11-2007 16:47

RE: Your English
 
Yeach , E-Vaire like me EnglishB)

Do you read ''The New York Times''?? Sometimes I like this newspaper. And you?

Pomyluna14 12-27-2007 11:48

RE: Your English
 
You see i don't good speak English, but in last year my degree of thins language it's 5.. xD In this year i have 4 :( I like English but i hate Germany.. English's better ;)

hermionaginny 01-20-2008 19:29

RE: Your English
 
Well, I read nearly all of the Harry Potter series in English. I think that I'm pretty good at English. English is the best thing in the world, so...sensitive.... In my opinion, everyone should be good at English; it's really important now, you won't get a good job without it. I , personally, learn English really hard; I want to be a master. Maybe, someday, I'll be like Andrzej Polkowski? (I forgot his name, please correct it if it's not right)

Essi 02-04-2008 22:58

RE: Your English
 
English... I learnt it for 6 years. I think it's easy language (easier than french, I;m sure!) and, what's the most important, everybody should can talk in english...but it isn't that....

weronika020830 02-26-2008 15:49

RE: Your English
 
I'm learning english about 2nd class :smilewinkgrin: I'am 23 years old and my english is no good :no: I have a lot of pause with my learn. But now I thinking that I start my learn from the begining :)

Kendra 03-02-2008 00:34

RE: Your English
 
I have learned English for about 8 years. And I have to say - I love that language! It's more flexible than Polish. Sometimes when I want to say something I do it better in English that in Polish:lol:

I know that when you're learning English you have to have a contact with it. So I know great way to do it. I go on youtube site and talk with people from around the world. It's really great! And when you're talking with English or American you can learn special words, abbrevs etc. For example gotcha ( I got you), ya (you), what R U doing? (what are you doing?), 4eva (forever) etc. It's really cool. I recommend youtube as a place to improve language;);)

utilisateur 03-05-2008 15:59

RE: Your English
 
I have learnt for 7 year of life the English language. He fascinated me first, to speak from someone after different crew-cut so nicely. However after time noticed, that this is not such straight lines and I started with this boring. In class 4 and 5 had with him very good opinion, but it goes now worse and worse...

Amy Way 03-11-2008 17:36

RE: Your English
 
I like English soo much, but i think i'm not very good can speak this language. (but it's better than germany). I start study it when i'm in 4 class x ) I know i'm commit lot of mistakes when i'm write and i'm sorry. I can't differentiate "times". for example Present simple and Past perfect. It's hard but i love English.

Bido 03-11-2008 18:23

RE: Your English
 
Amy Way, you've written, that you learn English from 4th class. In witch one are you now?

Black_Luna 04-13-2008 18:00

RE: Your English
 
Learning English, that's not really easy for Slavic. I know Englishman, which speaks Polish, and he has learnt from 3, 4 years. Nothing imposible, right?

Lady_Nenya 05-14-2008 18:22

RE: Your English
 
I started learning this beautiful language when I was 6. Now I can English quite good but I'm still learning and sometimes I make stupid mistakes in my grammar. Now my English is good enougt to talk with you. Anyway, every day I became better and maybe in future my english will be perfect. I hope so.

olusia_31 05-24-2008 18:37

RE: Your English
 
I love English, but maybe I'm not so good at that. I usually watch films without lector. That can realy help. I learn Enlglish at school of course, but... you know.. ^^ a school is a school ;) Let's say... school is different... ^^

Miss Bagwell 06-11-2008 14:07

RE: Your English
 
Cytat:

a school is a school
And this is a great problem. At least my. I have hopeless teacher from english. But in last year - examination of my life....:uhoh:

GinnHerma 08-01-2008 23:44

RE: Your English
 
I have started learning English when I was 6 maybe 7 years.I don't speak good and I usually make mistakes and I'm sorry.I'm not the best can speak this language but I very like English and I know that sometime I will speak this language quite good.

This is my first text on "English zone".And how many make I mistakes?

E-Vaire 08-02-2008 00:02

RE: Your English
 
I counted 6. One, I think you used Past perfect not correctly, two, 'I dont speak good' --> 'I dont speak well'. three, 'I'm not the best can speak' --> 'I'm not speaking the best ...', four, 'Sometime I will speak ... quite good'. It means in Polish 'Czasami będę mówić [...] całkiem dobrze'. I think that you should type 'someday' if you want to say 'Kiedyś będę mówić [...] całkiem dobrze' but I'm not sure, you must type about it yourself. Five, not 'on' English Zone but 'in'. Six, 'How many make I mistakes' ---> 'How many mistakes did I make?'.
If someone is good in this language, tell me if I did some mistakes and how I did them. I'm not the best but I want to be! : D

antybratek 08-24-2008 18:52

RE: Your English
 
I'm half-English. I can speak it as well as Polish. I enjoy talking in it, although it's the reading I really enjoy. It is nice and less complicated, I agree, but I do like Polish!:):)

Harry Potter 33 09-20-2008 20:02

I really like English. Sorry - I love this!
I very like my English lesson. And I have got good teacher. I very like speak in English. But I am not magnificently speak... And I like English song xp.
I have got English lesson... Yes. The start in class first.

szymon311 09-30-2008 01:15

I love English;) I teach it four years.I do not judge I'm got , I doesn't know a lot of words;)
In the future i wold like go to England;)
I hope you understand me :P
That's all.
I go to bed, becouse i read Harry Potter all series (po raz (?)) 9

Shizol 10-14-2008 17:40

Yeah, i understand you, but i don't know how.
Yes. I'm very good at english (second place in Poland in Junior Category) but... i can't speak. I know only how to write. It's strange, isn't it?
I've read Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows twice(in english, of course) and i will read Brisingr in english.
Well, good bye xDD

EDIT: I don't like english at all. I don't know why.

Yeah . 11-13-2008 18:48

I've been learning English since I was 13 . ?
Its so curtly .
But I kno that teacher never learn me what i really need .
So couse i really really love this language i started read books n various stories in English .
I think Im not bad .
But unfortunately , slang "eat" me ; p
I always wanna live in USA .
Eh . When I think bout this country , i start hate Poland .
N i see here almost everybody love it ; p
Its great . ; p

Kate 11-16-2008 21:26

So it's my 3rd year of learn this language. In my point of view i am [more or less] normal in it. Somebody should say more bout my knowledge. This year i have been on B2 level, i will pass 'First' next year...
I am a bit confused when sb use too much filars, like a person in up. For me is a kind of swank, even so i don't say it is bad at all just...
Plushkisses.

KateBlack 12-25-2008 13:54

I love UK and in the future I want to study in England and maybe live there.
I've learnt english for ten years and I've had a private lessons for two years. I haven't got a faintest idea about a lot of things!
I understand everything what is here but I have a problem when I have to write something :p...
Sorry for all mistakes - please correct them.

KaroLh 01-28-2009 23:43

My English ....
I learn a little bit longer. Difficult language, but wish him more than German. A lot of words, but you have to do something in life.

Nawoja 03-11-2009 08:24

I found my english quite good, though I don't know any of grammar - I use it of course but no idea what 3rd conditional or past perfect continous is. :D
My friend's fiance who's english once told me that I speak english as well as english people do - I don't know half of words and the other half I use incorretly. ;D
And that true (not about me, about english people) - they have no slightly idea what adjective or verb are, they use the form "she do" and so on.
So for all of you who still are having some english classes - don't worry about the grammar, it's just the teacher's whimsy ;D

Ginny_Kitty 04-10-2009 17:44

I'm very bad at english and i have a lot of problems with reading in english. I have been learning english since i was seven or eight, now i'm 13. and i like english, because it's easier than other languages
greetings

Gimbya 04-21-2009 21:15

I've learnt it since I was 6, I think. I really like this language and I think I was good at it in primary school. But now I'm in English speaking class and the level is much higher.
I can't say how good is my English. xD

Latika 04-28-2009 21:22

I've started learn english when I was... hmm... 7? So i'm learning this language for 8 years. It's very much time but I don't think I can speak in this language very well. I like english because... It isn't harder than polish, right? : D I can read in English very good but my writting... I think I must work better at this! ^^

Lady Mary Jane 05-02-2009 18:17

Firstly - I want to say, that I can't speak english good. Well... Truely - my english is horrible. Always I confused everything - times, words... Nobody can understand me XD
But I work, very hard, and I believe that once day my english will be very good. In the depths of my soul I know that I never will be good in this language xd

If you don't understand me - don't worry, nobody can XD

Gimbya 05-02-2009 19:36

I understood you, LMJ. Shall I be satisfacted? xD
I don't think that you're bad at it. Believe me, I know many people even older than me, who
use English in terrible way. Sometimes I simply don't understand them. : p

Latika 05-02-2009 23:34

Gimbya... I think you're talking about me "I know many people even older than me, who
use English in terrible way"... yes, it's true. i'm terrible in english! and you know it! : D


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