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Stary 11-10-2007, 11:15   #41
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Domyślnie RE: Your English

Nope. I do mistakes, I'm sure. I don't know why I criticize people and their mstakes in a texts... But I do that and? I corrected her mistake to 126p doesn't this one in future! If u want U can say whatever about me here, I know who I am and I don't need you to do that.
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Stary 11-13-2007, 21:48   #42
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Domyślnie RE: Your English

In my opiniaon correcting other people is ok,only if you do that on a polite way. It's only needed to say"you've made a mistake here and here" and using texts "oh,you should bye better dictionary" , or something like that, is just needless.Everybody makes mistakes and we don't have to offend anybody to make him know had he make any mistake...
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Stary 11-15-2007, 00:12   #43
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U are completly right. People! Be more tolerant, not everyone speaks english perfect. Tolerance is the basic thing to have nice conversation. I myself learn english with passion for a long time, sometimes even using uncoventional methods and it doesn't always come out the right way. Its very nice that on even polish forums u can talk in a different foregin language, its very building. Greetings to all berries on this forum and english language comrades.

Thats`s strange...Everybody say "How am I good in engish" but anybody write in this "english zone" It`s time to wake up !!!
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Stary 11-17-2007, 22:51   #44
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Domyślnie RE: Your English

This is a thread about English language... I could see another discussion above. Good. The high interactivity of this site should be considered a luxury, not a right. This forum was created to enable debating and discussing with each other.

I'm aware English can be used for picking at and getting at other people, but it doesn't become to criticise someone in an unfair and annoying way... Shame on everyone who does so! I encourage you to stay cool and use proper adjectives to express yourself (I know nobody used improper ones, but I only try to forestall it). Any kind of attacks and retaliations make no sense and shouldn't be tolerated. If one cannot follow this simple rule, one should make a short break and stop writing on this forum....

We should extend the zone and as Fiteg wrote - it's time to wake up! Nobody is perfect, even native speakers make mistakes. We should use the language because it's the best way of learning it. Correcting people should be kind and constuctive.

And one thing I want to add... Fiteg! Were I you, I would use 'elevating' instead 'building'. I presume you wanted to say that opportunity of using English on Polish forum is making you cheerful...
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Stary 11-18-2007, 01:05   #45
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i`ve benn waiting for reply such a long time One thing about world "building" I know what does it exactly mean however this world have second meaning wich belong to slang language. I`ve heard that english is very useful for harry potters funs cuz it helps you with reading "fresh" books" . You said that we shoud stay cool and use proper adjectives... but...proper you mean what? For example 'building' is improper adjective Apparently everybody ain`t speak english? I don`t think so! Namely ain`t be a lazers therefore i spur to gone wild!!
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Stary 11-18-2007, 16:11   #46
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I do not know such a slang you are writing about and I will stick to my earlier comment. In my opinion translating by copying Polish words exactly into English language is not always good, and poor imitates the using of this language. English has so many different expressions and idioms we can use instead of our own specifically Polish ones.

By improper adjectives I meant any vulgar, coarse or abusive words addressed to another user of the zone... As I said, fortunately, nobody has used such words and I wanted to forestall it having hopes of reacting it.

And my another comment: I think there should be 'lazybones' instead of 'lazer'. I respect your right to use a slang, but slang does not mean making up your own words... Slang has its own rights and there is a difference between using English slang and making own slang to use it among people who know what a made up expression means...

English is now a language used for international purposes and I am aware of the fact that the majority of English users would be able to understand you. The point is what did you want to achieve: an ability of communicating with other people or knowledge of language. Personally speaking I would like to possess both of them...
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Stary 11-20-2007, 00:50   #47
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"translating by copying Polish words exactly into English language" What does it mean? Maybe I do mistakes like that? Do yo suggest something? Apart from this my experience is talking to me that "lazer" is correct too

ability communicating with other people ---> this is the main and most important thing for all people who`s learning english. I can`t see the difference beetwen ability of communicating and knowledge of language, in turn i can see a lot of sameness peace out
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Stary 11-20-2007, 15:01   #48
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Translating by copying Polish words exactly into English lanuage means exactly and precisely what I have written... You should know best if I suggested anything... And I have never seen an experience capable of human speech...

I cannot deny the ability of communicating is the most important thing for the majority of learners... But I cannot be numbered among the majority. There is quite large difference between the ability of communicating and the knowledge of language (I mean knowledge at lingustics level), but I have to admit that they are inseparably connected, however it does not mean everyone who possessed the ability of communicating has a good knowledge of language. The better knowledge is, the better you can communicate with other people... But I know people who can speak English very fluently without any particular expertise. I do not demand that everybody should have a specialistic knowledge - I do not possess it myself, but I am trying to get it systematically.

I would like to highlight the fact the pronunciation of lazer is identical to pronunciation of laser.. It could be troublesome...

Finally I would like to thank you Fiteg for giving me an opportunity of discussing here in English. We have few quarrelsome and argumentative fellows here and especially one of them has sufficient conversational powers and the will to debate. The rest of the forum users do not know English good enough to hold the conversation...
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Stary 11-20-2007, 16:01   #49
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Domyślnie RE: Your English

So... Im learning English since I was 5 years old.
I've never liked it, but since I needed to know it well and fully use.
For 2 years it was like my native language, because I was working on an english community as Super Moderator and Operator.
On begining it was kinda hard, but each day easier and my english became almost perfect.
Tho' only I've been thinking so, and with time still improved and improved my english to proper.
Still I'm doing alot of mistakes, but I give a shit. The most satisfying is I can normally with no need to use some translators talk with friends from whole globe.
Last year I started to watch BBC Prime channel, to improve my spoken english.
For few months I was watchin' and watching with no results. Then someday I was in need to say something, and I've said it proper, with english accent.
Damn, I was like 'WTF?', but then I understood that hours of spending time at english channel watching some shitty comedies, gave me positive result.
Heh, mostly I watched the BBC at 1:30AM to 3:00AM, so it was ... nightride :smilewinkgrin:
Now I just love english, and I can't imagine to not-know-it :bigrazz:
Sometimes I dont know how to say something in polish, because I think about it in English - sad :lol:
Well I think thats all I can say about english language from my point of view.
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Stary 11-20-2007, 18:48   #50
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"The rest of the forum users do not know English good enough to hold the conversation..." - i hope that this worlds should help to recive more users who wold like to talk in english in this zone Elf, you said that you was working in english community as moderator, operator... I don`t understand exacly what do u do? What kind of work is it? This idea with englisg channel is very good, i`ve been practising this and after few months it helps. But you gotta be hard-bitten <--- this is the main quality to become perfect in english Don`t you think?
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